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What was it like the first time you saw each other out of prison?
Peter: I think my nature...urchins go down quite easily but in prison I held up because people do long sentences. What I'm saying is when I got out I burst into tears 'cos I seen him and I know if he had'nt been there the first thing I would have done is got myself a crack pipe. Carl was there though and that was it.
Carl: Don't you think you'll fall back into it?
Peter: I've been of the pipe for 32 days and I don't intend to go back while you're around.
What about you, Carl?
Carl: I feel the same. There was someone who'd been so constant in my dreams and my thoughts and memories and my hopes. Seeing that face...every time I thought about it I nearly passed out. And then when I did see him all I wanted to do was offer some kind of sanctuary, some kind of asylum. And work together on what's been said: Liberty, security. These thing are subtle but it's freedom. I just wanted to hold my friend to make him feel better, to be there.
Peter: If Carl hadn't been there at the gate I wouldn't be sat here now. I think I'd be at the bottom of the river. I needed to know if it was more than a postcard.
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