Men ja, absolut!

Förihelvete, nej.
Vart är mänskligheten på väg?

Hahahahaha. <3

Eller? Ja jag skulle tycka att det blev mycke tokigt då iaf x) Men äsch ni är ju killar :P

Nej.

Ja. :<

Stött på för många såna där.. Får panik!
Världen kommer gå under totalt snart. </3

Ja, jättesnart. :(

Ja.. Typ 21 December. Haha. Det är sånt här mayan folket syftade på.

Måste ha varit det. :(

- Sjönk titanic på riktigt?? Har inte sett filmen så jag vet inte riktigt....

eller

- London ligger i new york ju!

Vi är dömda.

Den dagen London hamnar i New York är vi illa ute.

Ja. Eller då en brud känner att hon ägt någon för att:
- HAHAHA ***** trodde att kellare stavades tjällare!

Jag finner inga ord för detta.

Alltså..... :(((

Haha.

Göre!

:CCC

Skicka brev XDD

xDDD
Brevbombar fittan då

Do it!

Hahaha. Njaaa. :c

Näää.

Hon borde höja budet :|

Varför just 24:-?! Fattar inget.

Men åh, haha. Klart hon tar ett lågt pris, för då är det fler som köper ju!HHHAHA

........................
MEN
VARFÖR JUST 24:-?! INTE 25, INTE 20...

Hon kanske gillar talet 24!?!?!?!?!

Skjut henne.

Tragikomik, det är rätt ord.

M-hm.

2+1=Potato

:(

Frida har gått och blivit hora

Jennifer, du och jag ska ha ett snack.

Heter.Inte.Frida.

Rättare sagt prostituerad. Hora är en kvinna som haver samlag med vem denne kvinna så vill.

Ja?

Precisely.

Lugnase.

Namaste.

Nomaste.

Jag som trodde jag var speciell! ;___;

Haha nä, man blir så trött. :(

tyvärr, förvänta dig inte att en hora ska hålla sig till endast dig :/

VA?!?!?! :(
Jag blir hemskt ledsen nu.

Hahaha, jag svarade ingenting. Bara printade och asgarvade.

Where's the world goin'? :(

dunno blame sweden

Everything's Swedens fault now? :<

well in the way you view it. Yes.

Please explain to me, what way are you talkin' about? What's my views you're talking about?

Well no borders u know. You see it all as the world. so when i say blame sweden. and you say so its swedens fault then well you dont see it as sweden you see it as Earth =P

I must still see it as Sweden fault, since in this matter of fact, we do now have borders. Stop bitching about that. You just showed that you clearly misunderstood what I meant, still I explained it to you many times.

You told him to blame sweden, if you don't view the world with borders, there is no Sweden.

Also that.

gotta love it how theres always more than one person

I don't ask people to join me, if that's what you think.
And what's the problem about it, really? If you know where you stand and you know your opinion clearly, 15 people is easy to handle.

i said blame sweden because its a swedish person writing to you. Heres another thing. If theres no borders etc what language is the main language then? Is it english or swedish, coz if there are no borders etc, then there are no countries, since its planet earth. So how exactly does it work?

Are you kidding me, Euan? Do you really think languages are originating through creating borders? So you're basically saying there was no languages before there were borders?

Just to inform you, the human kind could speak in languages three million years ago. Neanderthals could. However, the languages were not very well evolved. But they had verbs and some other noises. Good enough, huh?

This could go on and on. All over pathetic borders?

You started it, Euan. I thought you atleast by using logical thinking could figure out that languages were older than borders.

I never said they werent but how do u think borders came around? Because its a language barrier aswell you know.
The only way ure hating on BORDERS is because of it stopping people roaming freely.

Seriously why should i pay taxes for people NOT IN MY COUNTRY.. not native to where i live. To come and use that money? How is that okay in your head? Do you go around your neighbourhood just giving money to peopel?

I can only speculate, but if there never would've been borders, there wouldn't have been more than one language. I think Latin was the first "modern" language, but I don't know hold old it is.

'do you go around your neighborhood just giving money to people?' is completely irrelevant, since the taxes you pay go to help people in your country, i.e. your neighborhood. So yeah, technically we all 'go around giving money to people in our neighborhood' when we pay taxes.

Languages were around before borders, because even before borders people lived in separate tribes, that spoke different languages. As the tribes grew and migrated and settled, kingdoms were established. As time went on these kingdoms morphed into countries, which is what we have today. There's no denying that lots of problems have come up as a result of the border system at different times, such as colonization and xenophobia. I think what Jimmy is getting at is not so much to abolish borders just for the sake of abolishing them, but that borders are the cause of huge problems, and that it's unnecessary that we take them as seriously as we do. Examples of modern day problems that are the result of a strong border belief include the Israel - Palestine conflict and over-the-top nationalists. The problem is not in the borders themselves, but how we view them.

Klart det skulle finnas olika språk även om det inte fanns landsgränser :(

Det tror jag med!

siire is very correct in this statement. Thanks.

Fo sho! Thank YOU for an interesting debate!

Yeah our taxes that we pay are helping OUR Country. But when its immigrants coming over illegally and claiming benefits then they're getting that money aswell. So as u see, they're taking our money without even paying towards the tax.

There was a pic going around on facebook as to what an asylum seeker got during the 'winter period' they were getting £100 for gas and electricity a week ro something. OAP's dont even get that over here. They get a shitty pension that they struggle with. So why should they have been paying a pension + taxes all there lifes to then end up struggling to pay for gas / electricity in their old age. Maybe because your country isnt like this dont turn a blind eye to others and calling us evil for QQing about Borders.

You're most welcome!

Hej Samuel! <3 "As the tribes grew and migrated and settled, kingdoms were established. As time went on these kingdoms morphed into countries, which is what we have today" is like a huge simplification. Alot of tribes were, and are still being forced into "kingdoms" - which are a result of "modern culture".

Conflicts between different tribes existed before they were kingdoms, but they were not full out wars, but more like when animals defend their own packs and territories. Well, as kingdoms are a result of "modern culture", you could say that kingdoms do play a big part in these modern wars, but esentially the cause of all this is "modern culture" and well the agricultural revolution and locking up food.

Other than that I totally agree! :D

Euan, we have never stated that you were evil for your thoughts on this. It's natural according to your situation, and it's taken in count.

sure doesn't seem like that.

The last conversation we had:
"We just explained to you what it's all about.

You:
"You look out for yourself by being worried about these people possibly taking your job, which you do to ensure your own security."

They:
"Some people come illegally to a country in order to save their own or their families lives. They do that, because every single human being looks out for themselves and their own first."

They: Stealing my money to survive.

Are you serious with that? If so, I may justify to say that you deserve the position you're in. You're nothing but bigot and egoistic, extremely egoistic.

Ad Hominem, I don't give a fuck.

mclovinz: jesus fucking christ! we're all human beings, aren't we? we all have the same desire for life, and if we by paying taxes can help people coming from wartorn countries to do that in our own country, why would we not want to do that?

How is that being egoistic.
Its my money, i worked for it, why should i just sit back and watch while the government spreads my hard earned money to people that just decide to come here to survive.

Egoism is, when people desperately need help for surviving, so they come to England, to take jobs there, because they can't feed their family on the bad salary in Poland. You refuse them to live.
You told us they were coming to England to "steal your work", not just staying there living on the society. Make up your mind.
Why not, really? Do you need that extra expensive TV, do you need that really expensive smartphone? Do you prefer to have a smartphone or for the money of that, maybe saved two or three peoples lives?

The basics of egoism is when you're not willing to help people that needs it. How is that NOT egoism, I ask you?

Do you even know the charities that UK does. We have Comic Relief.. Children in need and alot of other ones that british people donate every year and its about £34million and thats just for one charity to help other countries. I dont hear of sweden doing that shit. So maybe you lot are the egoists.
UK Does a far lot to help other countries. And im not just talking about polish here. Im talking about the immigrants that come here illegally then dont work but claim asylum and other benefits.

Jesus.
I wasn't talking about the UK in general. I was talking about YOU.

http://i556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/spuppet/b%204chan/dont-know-if-trolling-or-just-very-stupid.jpg

You wouldn't understand. I have my reasons for hating people that claim benefits illegally just for them to survive.. thats bullshit.

"I have my reasons."
Good job there sir, you just won the internets.

Jimmy go get your friends to explain everything for ya.

I think I have kind of showed that I know more about this than you. You've just thrown the same ignorant arguments for the last 30 posts. Why the ignorance? I'm definetly not to be told what's right and wrong in this case.
I have never called for any friends for help, as I stated earlier. If you believe my words? I don't give a fuck, really.
I'd rather to people worth my attention instead of ignoring facts and pracking up the same bullshit up over and over again.

but the shit im saying is facts. what about the people in uk that get fucked over because of the immigrants? u think thats ok?

Are you for real?....
Of course it's not. But it's part of this bullshit system.
You're attacking the problem from the wrong angle.
Don't attack the immigrants, they are in this system just as much as you, and they have the same rights as you.
ATTACK THE SYSTEM. The system have made this situation, not the immigrants.
Shouting it's the immigrants fault is just complete wrong, and it's pure bullshit.

nah i think they should just keep their shit in their own countries and if thats the case. Shouldnt they Attack the system and not invade another country. Thats not helping Poland or any other country is it. They should sort their own shit out.

They cannot attack the system, because that would cause their death. You guys can survive while still uttering your thoughts, UK is that much more wealthy.
Poland is trying, believe, but the tides doesn't turn in just a day. One problem for Poland is Religion, and it's making the country very conservative, making the evolution slow.
No it's not helping any country at all, but it's helping themselves. It's helping them to survive the day.

Yeah how awesome.

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/9/15/932c4f80-ed2a-4d28-b5ed-0e3a2fec6b1f.jpg

http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/thumb/2/2d/Trollface_HD.png/618px-Trollface_HD.png

Were you serious or not?.......

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/troll%20face/grand/s4xqhk.jpg.gif

I think he was serious, but realised that he couldn't argue with you and therefore had to make it look like he was trolling :D

Nope i still stand by what i was saying.

http://www.prlog.org/11310326-success-kid.jpg

Then don't link pictures of trollface.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/TFYIGvVOi4I/AAAAAAAAIOU/Xk97W-6tt2A/s400/illegal_immigration.gif

Hej Mikko! <3 Good point, and yeah, I was oversimplifying, since a certain somebody in this conversation seems to need that *host* mclovinz *host* xD

I really can't be bothered to read the whole conversation down to here, and though you may not care, mclovinz, I can state from the opinions you present that I have no respect for you whatsoever. You do realize that we pay taxes as well and still don't share your xenophobia right? Which obviously points to that there's something askew with your personality..

And Polacks are not 'invading' your country, stop being stupid. God, uneducated fucks like you make me sick. Also, the picture you posted about illegal immigrants is UTTERLY disgusting, racist, over-simplifying and offensive.

c[_] you know what to do.

I have no idea what you're saying.

http://seemslegit.com/_images/61806df876d3899968f2f6ebf6da8542/500%20-%20care%20cup%20smiley-face.jpg

It's time for a meme i made just to dedicate to this conversation.
Such ignorance.
I deliver to you:
http://i42.tinypic.com/28qusuu.jpg

Siire: He means that you should put what you just wrote in your carecup.

So thats why you were scoping through my dayviews earlier at all my pictures.
Now we really are seeing who the childish one is and mature one is.

Also, atleast i didn't have to rely on others to get my point across or ask friends to come DEFEND me. You on the other hand dude... yeah you went there.

I think I was being pretty humoristic.
Never claimed to be mature either.
Haven't I told you this enough? I never called anybody into this conversation. Are you dumb? I barely know Siire, and the other guy is unknown to me. So what you're talkin' about, I don't know. You neither, I can clearly tell.

HAhahaaaaaaa, BEST MEME EVER! Awesome picture.

And Jimmy never asked us to help him, your ignorance was just so hard to resist! <3

Sure. I was gonna make a special meme for you but then i thought, nah wouldnt stoop as low as you.

Samuel <3

Your call. :D But sure, make one! I insist!

Nah i wont. Your mum would be proud.

Lol, that don't got nothing on me, pal.
I don't really care what my mum WOULD'VE thought about this. She's a part of my past.

Well thats obvious.

mclovinz, you can't blame him, your face just begs to be a meme!

Couldn't care more, really. Almost destroyed my own life taking care of her, now that I can finally take care of myself, why taking judgement from someone that's so severely injured she can't stand, eat or even speak for herself. Also, she took too many pills while she still had a "normal" life, so I would never take her decisions as mine anyways. You ain't winning this Euan.
Still, it's none of your business.

not trying to win anything and once again theres a cup of care awaiting.

You don't care, still you keep answering?
Good job there, sir.

So because someone replies it means they care? It would be inconsiderate of me not to reply. I mean afterall you're the one starting the personal attacks.

Ad Hominem, couldn't care less. Stood out with your bigotry and ignorance of facts long enough.
It's pretty interesting, how some people can become completely immune to knowledge.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions in regards to the thing we spoke about. But because you disagree with mine then that makes me out to be the racist etc etc. Then you decide to scour my dayviews finding the pic u find most offensive and use it as a MEME to personally attack me with it. Grow up.
Get off your high horse. Who died and made u god. And no that wasnt aimed at your mother.

Everyone has the right to utter their opinion, no doubt about it. But noone can force me to respect your thoughts. And especially not with the hatred you show against the immigrants "stealing your money".
And who the fuck called you racist? You might wanna check up what racism really is.
I want to tell you two things, now for the 2nd time both.
1. I never claimed to be mature. However, when someone leaps into extremely conservative and parochial thoughts and arguments, that also is false: that turns me into flames. The level of stupidity you show is beyond my imagination.
2. Ad Hominem, I really couldn't care less. If you don't know what Ad Hominem is, you might wanna check that up too.
And this point also belongs to the description on point 1.
I also just went in, scrolled through a few pictures and took one.
There is no god, religion is pathetic. I ain't no god. Just another human walking. Atleast not one with a dead mind.
If it wasn't aimed at my mother, why did you bring it up?

imma quote you and leave it at that:

You:
"You look out for yourself by being worried about these people possibly taking your job, which you do to ensure your own security."

They:
"Some people come illegally to a country in order to save their own or their families lives. They do that, because every single human being looks out for themselves and their own first."

Because i have no time of day for an EGO fuck like you. You claim im the ego person when really you are just as bad. Thinking you are all high and mighty because you care equally about every human. And just because i dont think its right for illegal immigrants to be here.

They are pretty much taking money from us. You can't even say thats bullshit. They are coming into my country, soaking up OUR benefits when they dont do anything for it. So damn right im angry and im not the only one.

But the moment u start making up a meme with my picture is the day i wish people like YOU werent alive. Just because i don't like immigrants. You think its okay to pretty much abuse my picture making fun of me for you and others enjoyment. Don't think so.

I'm not going to continue this conversation because you obviously not worth wasting time with.
You can't even explain why I'm ego. A good definition of ego is not "Thinking you are all high and mighty because you care equally about every human".
And no, I don't think I am all mighty and such. That's just your wicked observation of it.
I'm just another walking human on this planet.

Not going further. You have already proven many times to be in complete ignorance of facts. That's enough.
You attack everything from the wrong angles and think you're right. I've tried do direct you to the right roads, but you continually ignored the facts that I did put up. It's almost so far gone that I would take a wild guess and ask if someone shot you in the eyes.

And also, by wishing people death is something that makes people undeservable of wearing the title "Human". You are a fucking reptile.

Uhuh. Maybe you can find another pic of me and make a meme out of it or something. Might make you feel better about yourself.

I don't have bad self-esteem. Thou shall not judge.

hahahahahaha such an ass.

So be it.
Still pretty fun, don't you think?

Like i said, peopel like you that find it amusing to use other peoples pictures to bring some sort of entertainment to others. Have no place in my life. Can't all be perfect but thanks for that. Nice to kick a guy when he's already down, but then you're used to that being with your god complex.

Who said you were down? I never declare people down until they say so, and you haven't told me.
Still have no fucking god complex, stop blabbering that bullshit.

whatever

Haha, you are pathetic mclovinz! Going on like a broken record about how someone using your picture as a meme is the worst thing that ever happened to you. You're older than all of us, grow some balls and get over it. It WAS super funny. You came on here, out of nowhere brought up the border-discussion, and lost.

I realize that the world is full of people that share your view on illegal immigrants, and it's not like people like us are the majority in real life. You have plenty of people on your side, they're just not here. I just believe that that way of thinking says something horrible about your personality.

Förlåt att jag fortsätter spamma din bdb Jimmy, kan bara inte hålla mig när jag läser det han skriver..

Det är lugnt, man!

blah blah

Haha!

You all make me out to be the evil person, where you all just sat and said that the reason these people do what they do is to save their families etc or gain a better living. By doing that. So howcome when im doing that, im doing what i have to do to make a living but because of these immigrants it makes it harder. Therefor what makes me any different from them since all im doing is protecting my family with any means necessary and part of the problem is because of these immigrants. Arent you both contradicting yourself by saying ITS OKAY FOR THEM TO DO IT. But when it comes to me doing it.. it makes me out to be an evil person.

That is not at all how you stated it before.
What you basically said before was: "These immgrants live on my money, I'd rather see them die than give 'em a decent life, with a bit of help from myself."

Altruism is the key. How hard can it be, seriously.

I never said id rather see them die, i said that they should try and solve the problem in their own country rather than going to another country and then causing more problems. Why was that hard to perceive from what i said. They are taking our money.. i have a right to be mad at that, i pay that money to benefit people from my country including my family. But when my family then gets scrutinised against it. and gets fucked over because others are taking benefits then damn right i have a right to hate against this form of shit.

My mum had a heart attack and couldnt work for a while. They stopped her benefits that she was receiving (incapacity) and said she was able to work a few weeks after she had this massive heart attack.

Yet i walk down the street and see people fraudelently claiming benefits and im not talking about UK people although there probably are alof of benefit frauds but yeah. When it comes to people living illegaly here claiming more benefits than someone that has been paying taxes nearly all her life to then be told that after a severe heart attack she has to go back to work coz they say she is fit to work and cant claim any benefits then fuck yeah imma get pissed off.

Why should my mum continue to work after having such health problems while there are people here that came from another country illegaly getting housing benefits / food benefits / gas/electricity etc when they havent paid a SINGLE penny to taxes.

If u think i should just sya yeah sure thats fine with me and if you think imma be made out to be an evil person just because i think thats wrong then well call me anything you want but until you've lived in uk and seen all this shit for yourself. dont give me all your crap calling me a joke of a human.

Because for them it's about staying alive and having food to eat, and for you it's about scraping a bit off the top of your income. I'm not saying people should immigrate illegally if there is another way out either, I'm just saying that you are oversimplifying a complex matter, and being insensitive and selfish. I mean come on, look at the picture you posted in this conversation. Do you honestly not understand how that is a fucked up thing to post? Do you think that immigrants would go through all the trouble of going to your country just to take your tax money?

It sucks that the world is built up in such a way that some people have to leave their countries just to be able to put food on the table, and THAT'S where the problem lies.

There is legal ways for them to go about doing it though, they choose not to. They just want to get here ASAP. And i find it hard to believe that if they stayed there a few monthly longer they'd be dead. Its not about me losing A LITTLE money off my income. My mum was pretty much being told to risk her life if she even wanted to have an income just because the government felt that she was fit enough to work. So why is it any different that i shoud hate people that live off of money that my mum has paid all her life when she needs help from the governemnt the most they just cast her aside.
You don't really know much about me so u cant really say that im living a normal life and all im losing is a little money off my income. Im losing alot more than that. Each money even my family struggles to pay shit. Trying to get a job here is bad enough im still looking. So dont say that because im hating on these people that come here illegaly. WORK illegaly. Also they DODGE Tax etc. Don't make me out to be an evil bastard just because my views on illegal immigrants is inhumane and that in order for them to survive it has to be done.

'They just want to get here ASAP. And i find it hard to believe that if they stayed there a few monthly longer they'd be dead.'

You would be surprised. And most illegal immigrants dont immigrate illegally because they want to 'get there ASAP', but because they can't immigrate legally. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get a legal visa to most countries?

Also, the amount you pay in taxes is a percent, so PERCENTUALLY you're paying as much as everyone else, the fact that your mother had to struggle doesn't mean anything. Also, all your taxes don't go to illegal immigrants (far from it).

No not all of it goes to them sure. But they sure as hell get a lot of it, a house to live in, food etc. gas/electricity. Do you know an asylum seeker in UK gets more money to pay for gas/electricity in winter time than OAP's over here do. OAP's that have paid tax all their lives yet get no incentives to help pay for winter necessities. Why do you think winter time is a big thing in UK for OAP's soo many OAP's die due to it. cos they cant afford to keep heating on. Where as asylum seekers are living nice and finely.

look ive expressed my views and opinions on the matter, nothing is gonna change that. You've said that im thinking of it in the wrong way while also contradicting yourself. You've also made me out to be evil or whatever it was that i was. Leave it be.

Yeah, all off the illegal immigrants have wonderful lives when they get to the UK. Suuuuure.

And how would u know that they dont? The way u go on, they'd be dead if they never moved so technically. THEY DO.
Ever noticed any immigrant homeless people in uk. I can assure you.. YOU WONT!

Haha, have fun living in your rascist bubble.

God, learn to spell before trying to insult someone.

Why the fuck do you think they immigrate? Not come and become homeless, are you nuts?
They are trying their best, you have no facts at all to prove that "they're just using your systems for comfort". We got the same bullshit people as you aswell, that can't stick to true facts.
In sweden 40% of the immigrants have graduated high school, most of them even before they came here.
8% of the immigrants run their own companies.
15% of them are "living on the system", because they just simply can't work, or are searching. There are very few people that actually live on the system.
I can't imagine the facts in Sweden would be nothing but similar in the UK.

There is nowhere in what i write that says thats all they come to UK for to live off our system. I merely state that they should do it through proper channels. And i still live by the fact that i have every right to be annoyed that they receive more benefits and gain more help from tax payers money than people that actually require it.

I knew I spelled that racist wrong, I always does that :( but hey, that doesn't change that fact that you're a racist :3

everyone is a racist.

You might want to think that to justify your own racism, but that's not the case :D

Oh no, im only doing what i do in this world to make sure my family is good. If that makes me a racist then thats what needs to be done since after all im a human and aslong as im fighting for survival nothing else matters remember! Thats life

"...since after all im a human and aslong as im fighting for survival nothing else matters remember". - "HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME AN EGOIST?!"